A Witch, A Mystic & A Feminist's Anniversary Episode: Reflecting on Our First Year

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Anniversary Episode

Christy

Hey, ladies! Do you know what today is?

Jamie
What?

Christy

it's our anniversary we've been doing this a full year, a full year, one full year like, Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know how we got here, probably Marlena.

Jamie

She's the one that got us here.

Marlena

So let's remind everybody who we are. A Witch, A Mystic and A Feminist.

Jamie

That's right. That's right.

Christy

Yeah. And we have had what two great seasons really, in this year. We've had we had 29 episodes in our first season without guests. So that was just the three of us. No 17 episodes and our perfect jemand. Team. And then we have 31 episodes. Right now, as we record this, oh, there's probably a couple more in the can. With Yes, and that was like 20 or so guests. And season two. Yes. So we've grown, we find it Oh, we've just we've done a lot. We've accomplished that and had a lot of great people on the show.

Marlena

Yeah. So let's go back to the beginning. One year ago today, we recorded our first episode. Do you guys remember how you felt when we recorded that? Because I'll tell you, I was nervous as hell. And we also did like pre practice episodes. We did you know, to get us used to be in front of a microphone. So you know, our first episode, I remember, I wanted to throw up. And then afterwards, I think, Oh, I was just an I cry. Well, I cried afterwards, but I think that wasn't a drug. Yeah. Because I was just so nervous. And like, you know, people are gonna hear about me.

Christy

Well, and the imposter syndrome. I know, for all three of us was running on high for God, even though our episodes aren't live, so we can edit and we can take our time if we need to. But it was so nerve racking. Even just like right, speaking into a microphone for a certain amount of time. And really, we always spoke more than we needed to do yeah, there's a lot that probably ended up on the cutting room floor. But like it was just, you know, you're stepping outside of a norm and you've got all these other podcasts that you're listening to right that your fans have. And you're like, hey, now I'm gonna start a podcast, you know, like, right who's gonna listen to me

Jamie

That well yeah, and I think for me, it was the one thing I think that really made me nervous was being on camera Marlena, because we

Christy

well, that was never supposed to be Jamie was like,

Jamie

Sure, I can sit there and talk into a microphone about myself. And you know what, I'm not looking at anyone but you guys maybe like a zoom or something. But then all of a sudden was like, No, we're gonna put snippets with video. I'm like, oh, man, now they're gonna see my face, too. Yes,

Marlena

but you know, what I finally figured out how to do is actually do the snippets without having our video.

Christy

But like, it was funny because I, I actually did look back in my notes, because I was like, I swear Marlena said no video. And in my notes, I have no video underlines. And I'm like, so we talked about it at some point, like, and then it changed and we all started putting on makeup and lipstick and like,

Marlena

I know. Okay, so I went and saw Tina Turner yesterday in the Music Hall. And I was not wearing this much makeup. Like I'm like, I got the fake eyelashes on right now. I got the lipstick. And I never wear lipstick. But I look in the videos. I look washed out when I don't wear lipstick. Yeah.

Jamie

So yeah, you get us in all our glory on these early mornings.

Christy

So you do the things you learn about right? Yeah, you look washed out, you got to put something on your face. And you know that

Jamie

That first episode was definitely a sorry, a journey. It's sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Sorry. Again, I think because I don't want to sound like you know, I got this huge ego because you know, I'm working on that stuff. But like talking about things that I know, which are my stories, was like, it felt easy. That was an easy episode for me because I knew what I was talking about, as we will discuss further and we get into our favorite episodes and stuff and whatnot. I mean, it got harder for me. It got harder for me because they were topics that I wasn't familiar with. So recording the first one actually was probably the easiest for me because I felt most comfortable. But, and I didn't you know, I didn't imagine more than three or four people actually listening. Yeah, oh, my mom

Christy

said Yeah,

Marlena

with that being said, we've been nominated for three People's Choice. Yes. And because of our listeners, yeah. Which thank you so much.

Christy

That it's, I have to tell you, like, the self promotion is so difficult for me. And you know, who, but I know I had, I put that aside, and I was like, You know what, I am proud of us. And I'm proud of what we put out there. And I'm going to promote the heck out of this People's Choice podcast word. So let's go. So thank you for voting. And I know like, you know, I've had people that I've talked to you that maybe you've listened to, like one or two episodes that still went and voted for us, which, thank you so much. But you also need to listen to more because there's a lot of good. So yeah, I mean, we couldn't have done it without you. Literally. Yeah.

Marlena

And that's why we continue on with this podcast, too. Yeah. And for ourselves, too. I know, for me, I've learned a lot over the last year, not just about podcasting, but you know, about myself, about my spirituality, my gifts. This year has been so transformational. I think for all three of us. And you know, of course, my mom too, in that she's been a part of this journey. So, you know, the four of us really,

Christy

she makes the magic happen. She really, she really,

Jamie

she's the most magical of all of us.

Christy

She is the wind beneath. She is

Jamie

hence why her nickname is MFO motherfucking oz. Yeah. Oh,

Marlena

yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. So let's reflect on this last year, our journey. Okay. So I have a few questions. First being what was your favorite episodes record? And of course, we have the two seasons. So you know, you can choose from season one and season two or multiple from multiple seasons, but because there was a lot that we did, you know, and so it's kind of hard to pick a favorites. Yeah.

Christy

There's your first go girl. She no pressure, no pressure, no pressure. Um, so I will say for season one. Still, my favorite episode was the abortion episode. I was very proud of what we put out and the conversation that we had the three of us and then, you know, the conversations that it started for me with people outside of the podcast. And I'm just continually proud of the effort and the transparency and the vulnerability that we really put into that episode. So that stands out in season one, for sure. And then in season two with all of our guests. I have a lot but i want i The first one is April Porter, who came on and discussed human design. And you know, that one was intimidating, because I don't know a ton about it. I've heard about it. I've dabbled in it a little bit. But it really kind of came into practice with my youngest. In the episode we talk about my kids and we talk about, she mentions that my youngest when he's having emotional outbursts or hardships, that it's something in his environment that has just kind of it's up people for him. And so at the end of last year, he was having some issues in school, and really just coming home upset, feeling like he didn't have friends, off and on. And I finally listened to him and dug a little deeper into the situation at his school. And his classroom, actually was a transfer class. So there's a lot of building around us. And so kids that don't have a homeschool yet, were coming into his classroom. And then when that school was opening, they were leaving. So he was developing these connections with these kids for a week, a month, whatever. And then they were leaving. And so he didn't have any strong connections the entire year. And so when I found that out, I was like, Oh, my God, I was like, Yeah, and like, and when we discovered it, unfortunately, was at the end of the year, so there wasn't a lot we could do. But kind of on a go forward basis. You know, this year, I've made sure like, hey, he can't be in another one of those classes. Like he can't be in a transfer class. He's got to be in a class where he developed connections, and her advice and just heard, like, the knowledge that she shared really helped me identify where the problem was, because it's hard talking to a 910 year old, you know, like, where the problem the root problem was. And so that was super beneficial to have that even that little bit of knowledge in my head. And so yeah, that was great. I loved that. And then the other episode that I really well I'd love to I love Daisy. Yeah, I love that. I mean, I kind of fell in love with her. You guys all saw it. And then and then Mel, who we had a really great just conversation on all the things of and she's just such a joyful, dynamic individual. I loved getting to interview her and talk to her. So those are kind of my my highlights. What about you, Jamie? No

Jamie

are you calling me out Christine? Yeah, okay.

Marlena

I know she said I'm just like, I prepared the questions.

Jamie

Together I'm there's me. Okay. Well, I as they know, I made some notes here. So in the free Yeah, so my gosh, in the pre show legit because that's how I am. Anyways, favorite cash. Just like Christy said, and Marlena, we have so many that we could possibly list. I will say I agree the abortion episode, which I've noted as season one, episode 10. If anyone wants to go back and relisting.

Christy

Yeah, this is this is making notes in the pre show.

Jamie

Yeah, exactly. Women's abortion and reproductive rights. That wasn't a fabulous issue. And it was at the time. At that time, we felt we needed to discuss it because of the Roe v. Wade, overturned. And it just touched all of us here at the show that it was important to discuss. So super proud of that one. I agree with you, Christy. The other one that really stuck out was actually our second episode, because it was about the inner critic, and impostor syndrome, which, again, was another episode for us being or second one we all felt related to had a lot to say. And I don't think I realized till that episode, how much the inner critic and impostor syndrome really surfaced a lot in my entire life, not just podcasting. But as a mom, as as a friend, as a daughter, as you know, in my job. I mean, there was there were always things that would pop up in surface. And it really made me realize how to identify that, and maybe not be so hard on myself. So inner critic really sticks out because that was a big one for all of us that we could relate to. And I think I got the most comments and feedback from people who listened like, Oh, my God, yes. I just felt like I was you know, harboring this alone. But no, and that's a whole nother story. That's why we do this. So people can relate. Yes. So my gosh, another one was, of course, Alexis and Katie's episode that just came out recently, that season two, Episode 27. I think to get the perspective of our youth today, and what they're going through is so important. The vulnerability that they shared at the ages that they are was super powerful, super powerful.

Marlena

And I'm such a proud, proud mama. And that was a whim, you know, that coming on that show was on a whim, like we had a guest that was having technical issues wasn't going to be able to record and I legit went into a Lexuses room. And in all, my dramatics, like flopped down on their bed, and said, I don't have a guest for tomorrow. And they said, I'll be on the show, Mama. And we had talked about it previously, like they had said, I'd like to be on the show at some point. And I'm like, Absolutely. What do you want to talk about? You know, and so they said, let me call Katie and see if Katie will do it with us. And so it was legit, we 10 hours later. Yeah. So that was

Jamie

such a such an episode. It really was. And I've always believed I think you YouTube would agree is that if we share our stories, and people can relate, and we understand each other better, that's how we open up communications. That's how we support each other. That's that's about making the relationships and the understanding of what people are going through, you know, they might be shitting on the road and you're pissed, but there could be other things going on in their day that they're being distracted from. So it's all about the understanding and hearing each other's stories. So that was that was a huge one that I just I was blown away and just so proud of their openness, and their vulnerability. And then the last one I'm going to note real quick is the funnest episode was our fun and games Oh, episode where, which was season one, episode 13 When our producer was on the show, and helped pull out random questions for us to answer on the spot. So there was no homework on that. And still, I'm

Marlena

still I still want a unicorn

Christy

or a tail, or tail. That's

Jamie

right. I should pick the tie.

Christy

horn. Yeah,

Jamie

that's right. That was a that was a fun. That was That was fun. There was some depth to it. But there were some questions like the tail. Yeah, that were certainly fun.

Christy

Questions actually got brought into like my workplace like because there's people that listen there. And they were like so and then they started talking about what they would want, right like, Huh. And then we had this like conversate this 50 minute conversation about like, Well, okay, but you know, doesn't magic come out of a unicorn horn like don't you would get magic. Right and and so it was just this you know, so Yeah, still looking for that? Yeah,

Marlena

yeah, you know, the tail swinging around.

Jamie

We'll have to do that one. Yeah, that was I'm,

Marlena

we will,

Jamie

we'll have to do it. And for you Marlena.

Marlena

So for season one, my favorite episode or episodes, were the women in competition. Okay, that that series one that was the catalyst basically for this podcast. And then also, it caused me to reflect, I mean, to be able to do that episode, I had to really reflect on who I am, who I was the growth that I've had, you know, and, you know, some of the things that I've done, and that I don't want to do, again, in the future, and in my career, making sure that I am supportive of other women, you know, and knowing that there is room for all of us, you know, and so that was an important episode or episodes for me. Yeah. In Season One, season two, you know, and we'll go into guests because I do have, you know, favorite with that, but one of my favorite episodes was actually the hero's journey and fool's journey episode. And I still go back to that episode, because I'm like, as I go through challenges in my life and things like that, you know, I go, I'll listen to that episode. I'm like, Okay, this is where I'm at in my life right now, in this journey. So I really liked that episode. But also, I liked that episode, because there was a lot that we were learning and teaching, all at the same time. And so I, I really enjoyed that episode.

Jamie

I stressed out on that episode, because I'm like, What am I going to talk about? I don't know that I felt a lot of pressure. You're right. It's one of my favorites, too. i It's, it was a great episode,

Christy

when I listened back to it, right? Because that's the other part of this is like, you record. And I know, we've all felt it about different episodes. And then you're like, Ah, that was a piece of crap like that. That's not it's not going to be great. Like, it's not going to be good. And then you listen back to it, and you're like, Oh, that wasn't as bad as I thought. And maybe the magic of editing mom, like, that's probably part of it. But you know, it definitely that was one of those episodes where I was like, kind of shaky on and when I listened back, I was like, okay, all right. You know, okay, yeah. So

Marlena

yeah, that's one of my favorite episodes. So those are, those are two of those. So we discussed what was your favorite episode to record? But you know, listening back to the episodes, again, what what was your favorite episode in that?

Christy

I think Jamie needs to go. First. I'd

Jamie

like to know why I'm laughing because my inner critic bitch in impostor syndrome still heavily kicks in, I still struggle re listening to them. Because Because of that, as I don't even know if the audience would know this. But after we are fabulous producers always like theirs. And of course, Marlena, if there's something that you said that maybe you don't want to be a part of the series like, or the episode, let us know, we'll cut it out. And they also in fairness, come back and say, Hey, are you sure you want this piece in there? You know, are you okay? I live in the moment of if I set it, it's done. And that's what I meant to be said. And there have been things that have been a little questionable. That probably have been edited, which is probably a good idea. But um, as far as being vulnerable and open and trying to talk honest from the heart. And in the moment, I struggle with listening to our episodes again, and I'm working on it because even Marlena said, You need to go back and re listen to that episode, because I think there was so much growth in there for you and things to like, listen to again and learn. And I'm working on it. So I can't even I can't chime in except for with that comment. Because I struggle with the inner critic popping in and I'm trying to shut that bitch up as much as possible. But that causes me to face real harsh criticism on myself. And I mentally am not there yet. So I'm trying there have been episodes I will be listened to. But it's few and far between because of that, so that's why I was laughing. I'm like, I don't know if I can answer this question. But I listened to Episode I haven't been a part of, um, you know, Alexis and Katie's The Sedona series with you know, you and your mom when you guys recorded Marlena. So there were those but not myself, myself.

Christy

So Marlena, what about you?

Marlena

What am I favorite episodes to listen to is the one with Emily Kaushik records. She is fantastic, you know, but that was such an enlightening episode. So yeah, that was one of my favorite episodes to listen to.

Christy

Now, I have to cope with a different like I have to come up with. I mean, you don't have

Marlena

to come up with a different ones. You don't have to.

Christy

But I, I do also, and I know this might sound weird, but like, I really listened to our grief episode a couple of times. And I think it was also a really good episode. And it's something that, like, in my world, I I'm coming at, weirdly enough, I'm coming into contact with a lot more parents with autistic children. And I really listened to that to kind of talk to them. Right? Like, I really do. Lean on that a little bit. And so and then I haven't yet gotten the courage be like, You should go listen to this episode on Greek, right? Because it's, it's so personal, right? It's such a personal journey, and you don't know where they are in their journey. But you know, sometimes I'm like, they would just like, if I could just say that, like, it might actually help them because then they're not listening to like, they're listening to me, but like, we're not face to face, they can just listen on their own. But I'll get there. I'll get there. But it is one of the ones that I go back to.

Jamie

That's a great episode. You know, I almost wrote that one down this morning. And now that you talking about it, I remember just kind of that was a fucking it was I remember literally the three points that we had, because we all touched on grief a little bit differently. Yes. Right. You know, because a lot of people relate grief to death. Yeah. And death is in many forms. Oh, God, you know what, that's back on my list of favorites. That's, that was a great fucking episode. Wow. That was,

Christy

that was great. And that was one I got a lot of comments on and a lot of like feedback on which was awesome to, you know, to connect with people in that way. So yeah. And of course, the Akashic record you I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Jamie

Wait, that that comes into the hosts?

Marlena

Yeah, the guest or the guests. Yeah. So that's the next question. Who is your favorite guest? Or guests? I mean, we've had so many and I'll tell you, for me, I learned something from each and every person or person that we had on the show. And so to have one Yeah, is just tough. It is very difficult. Yeah, it's difficult.

Christy

Who wants to go?

Jamie

Yeah, go Marlena, you go first, because you didn't go first.

Marlena

Okay, so I have I have four. And I don't think anybody's going to be surprised by this. Okay. Um, first on my list, my kid. The fact that they were able to one save my ass. But two, because I was like, do I have to do an episode all by myself?

Please don't

Marlena

make me do this. I may not today. But but also for them. And Katie, like Jamie said, to be so vulnerable and to be so open. And you know, and it was funny because I spoke to Morgan I didn't actually speak with her. She she had responded. She was like, Oh, I remember when I was a teenage witch, with Alexa nearly lighting the house on fire you but for Alexis, too, you know, and I guided that episode a little bit more than I normally would. Just because they were really nervous. Like Alexa and Katie. They were very, very nervous. They're like, yeah, we'll totally do this. And then you know, you put them in front of a mic. And how we were even before we recorded our first episode, where we were like, You talk for smooth? Yeah. So, you know, for them to just really and you can see the progression in the episode of them being more open. And so Alexis and Katie on those two together. My number two, it's actually not my number two, like these are my favorite people that I had on here. My mom, of course, to be able to speak about our experience in Sedona and you know, how transformational it was for my mom and for myself and watching the Lexus. But also, you know, I got to do an episode with my mom. So I've had the opportunity to do an episode with my mom and with my kid. And then I also had the opportunity to do an episode with my cousin's Tony Iraqi Simpson and be able to share my auntie Linda's story. This is the first time that they were able to tell her story. And they were our first guest. Oh, yeah, Santa, you know, so we had never interviewed before. And it's funny because I just spoke with somebody we were, I was talking about the podcast. And she was saying, oh, you know, that's really interesting. I have a bachelor's in mass communication. And I was like, I know shit about this, like, you know, and so we walked into a podcast, doing the podcasts not knowing anything about podcasting. And then just a few short months later, we start interviewing. And you know, so for me to be able to interview my cousin's it made it feels I don't want to say easier, but there was a comfort there. Yeah. To be able to interview them first of

Jamie

all, twins. My now I mean, that was Yeah,

Marlena

and they're they're just amazing. Are. Yeah, young man. I mean, like they're in their 30s. Now, are they really young? Or am I just said, they're

Jamie

not young, middle aged or old

Christy

men.

Marlena

Actually, they are the only men that we've had on this show. If you think ah,

Christy

ah, oh, maybe that's what we need to try next. We need more

Marlena

money to try men.

Christy

Some people like that some people

Jamie

don't. I mean, I saw the pre show on the microphone. I was issues I was dealing with. Jamie this has gone off the rails Amy. Oh, my God. Okay, so, and I will agree with Marlena. And these aren't like, my only favorites. All of our guests have been amazing. But the ones that stood out to me the most. We already mentioned her name. But Emily Harrison and her Akashic records. I went into that episode completely. Like, I had no idea what Akashic records were. I was trying to do some research before just so I had a little bit of an understanding. But it was amazing. And I learned a lot in that episode. That's actually the first episode you said to me, you need to go listen to this again. You know, you you personally learned a lot in that episode. And I did, I was told a perspective of how I've lived my life in regards to my career, and how I'm my own wall, I'm my own hurdle. I'm putting up those walls in front of me without even realizing it, because I'm minimizing my own self worth and what I feel I deserve. I'm working on that it actually helped me a lot with my journaling, and even just affirmations of myself, because I feel like I have a pretty healthy self confidence. But like all people, we have our insecurities, but I didn't ever realized how much I stopped myself from my own successes. From my own value. It was very eye opening. So Emily Harrison, God love you. That was such a great episode. And of course learning about the Akashic records because as you will hear in that episode mean Christie thought something completely different. I was thinking something regarding legal work and Marlena texts the wrong group of people. And Chris, you thought some kind of recording studio with records or something? I don't know. So it was it was very comical.

Christy

I got really excited. I was like, are we going into recording?

Jamie

That'd be fun.

Christy

Are we doing voiceover work? What's happening? Maybe at some point I'm putting it out there.

Jamie

The other guest that I absolutely just fell in love with and it was also on a whim was Dr. Lisa winters our pet communicator and oh my god, I love and I wasn't even supposed to be on the episode. Marlena was just like, Oh my God, would you be able to do this with me? And I was meant to in the big picture with the universe but Marlena, you know, call me Hey, can you do this with me? Otherwise, I'll do it by myself. My cat like Tuesday work, you know, whatever it was we recorded after work one day, and she was just she's in Australia. She's in Australia. Oh my gosh. She's just amazing. And I will be honest, like I believe in all things mystical and the universe and all the things but when we get to pet communicators, I'm like, I really want to hear about this because you do you walk in with some skepticism. Like Like, really, really? Like I can tell you what Maggie's thinking right now she needs a shot at tequila. No, I don't know. But it was beautiful. And of course, if you listen to that episode, which I'm going to tell you a season tip so 21 Other things happen in that episode that were very special for me that like I didn't expect and so many of our episodes have brought shock value at times. And it's beautiful. And it's magical. So Dr. Lisa winters, your beautiful person that was such a great episode.

Marlena

Yes. And we had our pets as good It's on the show as well. So I actually have Capo girl in the room with me. She's a guest on the show again say hi couple

Jamie

that was great. And then the last one I'll mention is season two episode 22 to two Julia had us our be witching you know it mixologist it was called the witching potions. And I loved how she incorporated alcohol, if you will in a Sara it's spirits Hello. That's why they're called spirits but in a witching type of way, you know to include it in a more of a ceremonial ritual versus just to you know,

Marlena

just so no bad. Yeah.

Jamie

But it was a great episode and I really had fun in that one. That was that was a lot of fun. Yeah,

Christy

that was one fun. And it was a departure from kind of our Yeah, healer format too, right. We're like, oh, we get to drink at night in the morning. That's

Jamie

called brunch. That's me

Marlena

without the food.

Jamie

Without them. I guess we won't on the microphone and Drink. Drink.

Christy

Yeah. But that was fun making that cocktail. Like I went out and got the ingredients. And I was very intentional with it, you know. And that was it was a lot of fun to do. So she was one of my favorite guests as well. jankari though. That's okay.

Marlena

I mean, exactly.

Christy

Yeah, but so I've already mentioned Mel, who I love and then, and Daisy, who I love. So those were two of my favorite guests. And then Julia Of course, and then I just have a lot and Claire stone. Like just such a wonderful conversation, and she is just so full of light and just love and you could feel that from her. And I really did connect to her in that episode. And then Dr. Eliza Collins was another one that already talked about psychedelics. Oh, definitely. Not really. She

Marlena

is just so intelligent and are too. Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I adore her. I adore all of her. Yeah. Which is family for sure.

Christy

Well, I mean, and I was gonna say the salty twins too. But you already covered that. So like we're given love or sharing the love. So yeah, those were a couple of my top ones that just I either connected to on a on a deeper level, or, you know, just really enjoy and

Jamie

Jamie della Oh, Jamie dalla Jamie Della.

Marlena

One of our most recent guests, man, I fucking love her. Yeah, like, I'm like, can you be my mentor?

Christy

Yeah, maybe like you should put it out. And see ya already the plan.

Jamie

Amazing. She's amazing. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna work on my potions soon. Nice. Spell crafting?

Christy

Yeah. Well, I mean, that's part of like what I've learned, if we want to segue into that, yeah, about spirituality. Yeah.

Marlena

So what have you learned with regards to spirituality over the last year?

Christy

Um, I think it's just intention, right? There's so many different ways and versions that you can go about your spirituality, and it's deeply personal. But I think it's about your intention and your connection to the things outside yourself. So your connection to nature, and really thanking the earth and thanking nature thinking the world around you for providing for you. It's not just witchiness I guess it is witchiness. But it's, you know, people pray. And that's just a spell. Like, to me, it's a spell right, you're speaking you're speaking a spell into the universe, just like, I speak my intentions into the universe while I'm driving into the office, you know, so it's just so unique to each person, I think. And part of this last year is learning that even though the way that it looks to me is not the way that it looks to you or the way that I practice is not the way that you practice. But we have commonality and we can come together especially for open minded right? And we can talk about things and things Marlena or Jamie that you're doing that I'm not necessarily like into or I'm not like there yet, doesn't mean they're wrong doesn't mean that they don't work because they work for you. Right? Yeah. Which I think is just a beautiful, beautiful thing and the ability to create community around that. You're creating community around different minded people and different practices, but it's still a community. It's still a spiritual community. And that's, that's been really beautiful to me. I love it. Who's next?

Marlena

Jamie's next

Jamie

um, I have to agree with a lot of what Christie said. But same for me. I think the biggest lesson I've learned is that there's no right or wrong way to practice your spirituality. I think it's more of what feels good and right for you. Because I've always felt like okay, I need to meditate every day. And I need to do it in a very quiet area with my eyes shut and you know sitting Indian style with my fingers touching and like, you know, the all the arms and all the wounds. I can't do that in my house. Legit with three animals too. Do kids lately, like five are running around here, my husband working here, like, I can't find that moment. So I have learned that it's okay if your meditation is 510 minutes laying on your bed because you literally have everyone outside of the house or they're all quiet for 10 minutes. And that's the only moment you can steal, and you do it, then do it. If that means you have to get outside of the house and go sit in the park, to meditate and go do it. So for me, it's the lesson of it doesn't have to be this, this, this and this, it can be whatever that is for you. Right. Um, I have definitely learned that my spirituality is 100% connected to nature. I have to be outside. I have to be touching trees, feet in grass that helps me feel so connected to Mother Earth and the universe and our divine creator. So much that I need that it brings such peace for me. So I've learned a lot about what works for me. And what doesn't, and it's okay. Yeah, right. There's no right or wrong. And I've also learned that it's just an ongoing forever journey, which I love is and also my brain doesn't love. Because I want to get I want, I want to get to the end game, right? It's I want to get to the end game and what Okay, now I'm here today, you know, I've reached the clouds have parted the sun shining on me. And now I am all spiritual.

Christy

You're at the highest level,

Jamie

I am reached the Jedi of spirituality. But that's how I went into this. There's got to be an end result that says you've made it, you're good. That's will continue down this path, right. But it's never ending. And it's questioning and it's asking the right things and the wrong things. And maybe in and out of ebbs and flows of practicing and not. Yeah, this keeps me on track more than I ever thought it would and helps me a lot our little podcast here, but those are my big lessons for sure. Marlena. Oh,

Christy

you What have you learned,

Marlena

um, that it's okay to be a human, to have my human experiences and to have my shitty days. And to sit in that and be okay with that. What I also learned is I am so divinely protected and guided, we all are, you know, but for me personally, I know that I can and will fall on my face on occasion. And when I don't have the strength to pick myself up and dust myself off, my angels, my guides, my ancestors will do that for me. And that no matter what challenges I face, and I'm getting emotional right now, because this week has just been weird for me. And I've been dealing with challenges. But, you know, I've found ways to be able to not let it break me the way that it has in the past, to really be able to reflect on that. And also find ways to be able to ground myself so that the world isn't crashing down around my shoulders, you know, this way. You know, as I've had jetlag, and waking up early in the morning, I'm like, Okay, I can't fall back asleep, let me do yoga and meditate, because I know what's going to take place today or whatever. So, you know, I have tools that helped me get through those challenging days or, you know, challenging times my tower moments. And again, I am so divinely protected and guided that, you know, when I can't, when I don't have the strength to do it, I have them that will help me get Yeah, you know, and I have you I mean, you know, you know, I have my given, you know, I have my people here, but I also have my folks, you know, behind the veil that are that are watching out for me. So yeah, that's what I've learned. And, and I've known that, but like I really know that

Jamie

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well,

Christy

I'm going to add one thing that I've learned too, that it's okay to be a skeptic. And part of that, for me is keeping myself safe and keeping myself like in control. But through my skepticism. I mean, there's episodes where obviously like you all know, I'm skeptical of things. But there's been episodes where the same thing or similar things have been said to me. So yeah, really. There is no mistaking right and somewhere out there that in my mind. I'm like okay, well, they're really trying to get through to me, right? Like they're really trying to be like, Hey, hi, three different people. Ball, same message. What is happening? Like, are you going to believe yet or not? Right? And I'm like, maybe? Sure. Okay,

Jamie

I need one more sign, please.

Christy

111 more, just

Jamie

one more, one more.

Christy

But it's okay. Right? Because we are talking and dealing with the unknown. And it's okay to even if you're super spiritual to have moments of skepticism, it's okay. And it's healthy. It doesn't make you any less of a mystical witchy being it's, it's an for me, it's part of my journey. And it's part of my growth, and it's who I am. Right. So I just wanted to add that into that.

Jamie

But I just need one more sign. You've given me 10. In the last week, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

Marlena

Sure if I actually,

Jamie

I believe what you're saying, I'm going to need that Lattimore that last

Christy

line might not have been a sign. Like maybe I'm just reading into, like, maybe it just as a coincidence, you know, and I don't know. So maybe should.

Jamie

We was just gonna say the other thing we've all and maybe we've all believed this before even started this little show. I know I did. But there are no such things as coincidences. And, you know, if we are our eyes and our hearts and our minds, and our and our intuitions are up to opening and embracing and noticing the signs, they're all there. They're all there. You know, and we don't believe in coincidences. That's the big C word on the show. That is the face.

Christy

And I said it.

Marlena

So throwing tomatoes at you right now. And potatoes,

Christy

I will gather them up and make a stew.

Marlena

So what have you learned about yourself? I mean, you know, not just spiritually, but what have you learned about yourself over the last year? Because we've all there's been a huge transformation in the three of us here. What have you learned about yourself?

Christy

That's a big giant question. So I'll start. This is a lot. Okay.

Marlena

I'm stronger than I think. That's what I know. Or that's what I've looked at. And also it's okay to do ship scared. Oh, yes. Like this. Yeah.

Christy

I think in the show, too. Like, as we started interviewing, I think it's like I learned it's okay to feel a little underprepared. Right, like, especially if you don't know a lot about the subject matter. Yep. And we didn't know really how to interview, you know, so we were, you know, the way that we formatted our shows at the beginning of the season versus now has changed a lot, right? Because, yeah, totally more,

Marlena

because we were just figuring it out. Yeah, exactly.

Christy

Yeah. So showing up scared and doing it anyway. And then, you know, really having conversations. Yes. Like I? Yes, of course, they want to ask you questions, but I want to have a conversation with you. Right, that's what I've learned is how to have conversations with people you've never met before, or you've met one time before, right? You've had like a five minute phone call with like, you, like having those conversations. And that's been huge in terms of podcasting. Think of other things,

Marlena

but also being curious. You know, and, and for me learning to release some control, because I had to have the outline, and I had to have things scripted, and you know, things like that. And so to kind of like toss the outline, and just be curious. And, you know, which is why a lot of the guests that we brought on on like, I wanted to learn about this, because they don't know much about it, kind of thing and find those people that you can have that conversation with. That's one

Christy

of the things in one of my readings that they said, You have to keep the Wonder. And so that is that has been a phrase that I've kept with me, like, keep the Wonder keep the curiosity like in all things, right? Because and that has made my life and I think me on the show a very different person because I am curious, I wonder about you, I wonder about what you're doing and like, you know, so it's an it just brings life to me. I think when you lose that you lose like a child part of you right playful part of you. You know, you're just like me. So, I feel like I've shed the mess. And

Jamie

we encourage everyone to shed the

Christy

mess, please do. It's better on this side.

Jamie

Yeah. I'm I'm very similar with both of you. I've learned that it's okay to be a tad ignorant too. discussions and topics when we walk in to them because and the ladies will attest to this, but I've talked to them before about the pressures and the stress that I get. And it turns into like a whole spiral, like downward and I shut down and I come into some shows very anxious, because I don't feel like I know what I'm going to say. And I'm gonna sound stupid. So I have learned that it's okay just to be okay, coming into it and being open minded and willing to just ask questions and learn, I don't want to say off the cuff, but it just a little more. However, the the flow that was less structured just a bit, not as much pressure coming into the shows, and those those those pressures I put on myself, because I didn't want to come off as like, the guests being Oh, my God, who is this girl, like, she doesn't even know what she's talking about. Um, but those were the pressures I put on myself. So I definitely learned to step back a little bit and just kind of go with the flow of the show. And I'm still learning to, like, listen to the shows again. So I'm working on. But I have listened to shows that I've spoken on. So that's progress. It is

Christy

progress. That is

Marlena

and how did you feel after after listening though? I'm curious,

Jamie

actually pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. I it's just like I said, it's that imposter and your critic coming in. And I guess there's a part of me too, that now that the shows out in the universe, like come back and say, Oh, maybe I should have cut that. Like, I'm really trying not to criticize myself to the point of like, I'm going to start questioning, I get that. Yeah,

Marlena

but I think with like our guests, you know, especially those that have started with us from the beginning. They've seen the evolution of us as well. You know, and we see some smart shit sometimes. We also say some fucking funny shit.

Christy

I mean, no, yeah, we do. We do. And I will say like, the episodes always sound way better than what I think they're going to sound like. Like, I'm like, Oh, I don't know if I'm gonna come off great. But then I listened to it. I'm like, sounds great. You're like, I was fantastic.

Jamie

And yeah, let's go. Yeah,

Marlena

but did you guys think that we would be here a year later being like, here we are recording our one year anniversary? Like it's our birthday? Happy birthday to us episode. I mean, I hoped

Jamie

I'll retract my Nope. To. Um, yes. But the following the following our supporters, our listeners, it blows me away, right. It really does. And I posted about this the other day, when we talked about our podcast nominations. I told Marlena because she had posted about it right when it happened. And yeah, we're promoting and everything. And I'm sitting here thinking like, I need a moment with this. Like, I need to sit in this for a minute, because I have so many thoughts right now. I'm just gonna wait a few days to post and discuss this. And yeah, it just blows me away. Because my vision when Marlena came to us with this idea, her little brainchild here, that was like, what we're doing what now? Um, what I literally thought it would just be the three of us, and we would banter and we would, you know, have a topic of the day if you will, and have some fun, and maybe we'll you know, our parents will listen. So, um,

Marlena

well, my mom, my mom listens like, 15 times as as doing all the editing and everything. So my mom, definitely,

Jamie

I'm not listening to it, but maybe my mom will. So

Christy

I figured maybe there'll be so proud.

Jamie

Oh, honey, You did so good on that app, as I'm so proud of you. Um, I mean, that was kind of my expectations. And I don't know, I honestly in the very beginning, I saw it going on, I didn't anticipate the following that we, we have formed. And I'm so blown away and grateful for the our listeners, our supporters and other people who would like to chime in our guests, guests who now reach out to us saying, hey, we want to be on your show. We're in the beginning. You know, Marlena and our producer was trying to just find guests right like to drum up the drum them up. And now we have people actually reaching out to us and that just really, you want to talk to me for now. Exactly. All right. I want me to interview you.

Marlena

Let's let's do that. Let's go.

Jamie

So I think that's I that's my answer to that question. I I saw us doing it. I just didn't think it would be as big as it has become and I'm just so grateful. I'm blown away and just in awe and I'm so excited for our future.

Marlena

Yeah, yeah, there were there were times this year because we all stopped haggled personally with the podcast. And some of it was the commitment of it to I mean, you know, there was, we're all working full time jobs, and we are full time family time moms, and you know, and so that we're like, okay, let's, let's just add this to the list, that there were times where I was like, do I just pull the plug on this? You know, Is this too much? But then, you know, I meet a guest, and they're talking, and everything that I need to hear in that moment is being said, and so it's, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is supposed to continue on. So yeah, I'm really excited for the future. Christy,

Jamie

what's your did you think we are going to be this? Oh, yeah. Wait, what question?

Christy

What can I do? Where are we? Yeah, well, I hoped we had this kind of a loose idea. And I won't say loose idea. But it was a looser idea, right? Like, this is kind of what we want to do. And this is kind of like what we want to build and how we want to really get this message out there. But as far as like, where we saw ourselves, we never defined that there wasn't any like, we want to be here at this point, you know, and I was like, I hope it gains traction. And I hope like we have listeners, and I just didn't know what it would look like. And so looking at it now I'm like, I don't even think I could have imagined it looking like this. Like I don't you know, like with all the guests. Because I think for me, I never even imagined really having guests in the beginning. I know, we had talked about it, but I thought it was gonna be like way out there like, Okay, well, we'll be three, four years in and we'll have guests or you know, I don't know. And so,

Jamie

three, four years. Yeah.

Christy

Who knows she has aggressive goals? Well, I mean, because I knew like when we started it for me, like, I don't like starting something if I know it's super short term, like if we talked about this, and we were like, Oh, we're going to do it for six months, I probably would have been like, six months isn't enough to get going. Like, you've got to give it a go like a healthy try. And so I thought if we reach a year, that is huge, because in this year, we're learning so much about ourselves, we're learning how to podcast, we're learning about each other, we're learning how to deal with one another, and how to work together in a different function than friendship, right? We're learning how to interview guests, we're learning how, you know, we're learning just so much. And then dealing with our whole other lives, you know, and so I'm just very proud of us. And I'm proud of the improvements we've made, and that we've maintained our friendship and our, you know, and our working relationship, and that I have fun doing this podcast every week, like it is a fun time for me. And there was a couple times where it wasn't quite fun. Great. I was we were trying to fit in this morning trying to do Yeah, we were trying to like really, I don't know, just really fit into this specific way of doing this interview, or whatever it was. And I struggled with that, because I'm like, It's not fun at not that it has to be fun all the time. No, but it is we

Marlena

didn't want it to turn into a job. And there was a point, there was a point where it felt like a job. And I think we all needed to take a step back and be like, and we

Christy

did, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I'm proud of us that we were able to because there's a lot of people out there that couldn't have made that shift, like couldn't have said, you know, okay, we need to shift, right, try something new. Right. And we did, and we did it successfully. And I think we are all the better for exactly. We were here. So yes. So all together. Look at us. We made it.

Jamie

Boy, Hey, Ma have made it. Oh, I do I have an additional question before we Oh, no,

Christy

this was not on the list. JB this was Yay. Okay.

Jamie

So along the same lines that we're just talking about right now, what are your hopes for our future? Oh, that

Marlena

was my question.

Christy

My question, I only have to answer what yeah, we have the same question. I know, we've talked about it in several episodes. But I really like hope that it continues to be a jumping out not just a jumping off point for all this. But let me kind of dive into that a jumping off point for our passions and our interests, because they're all different. Right? So and I think that's become very evident through this last year, too, is that we all have a kind of a specialized, passionate, like, you know, thing that we are focusing on right? And we're finding it's our gift, right? And that's and so I hope that this provides opportunities to explore those passions and opportunities and explore that outside of the podcast, maybe even with some of our guests, right, like maybe even with the community that we're building. And beyond that, I would love to continue this and continue to create the community that we've started building, the community of

Marlena

which is sidestick like feminists.

Christy

Exactly. Some like minded individuals, and some not, but we're all alike. But all very open minded, we all bring a different piece to the table and have a great time and a great conversation.

Marlena

I think you pretty much nailed it. I mean, that's exactly. You know, this is definitely a capitalist for the three of us, you know, each one of us individually, towards our passion. And, you know, I know for me, again, divinely guided, and there is a specific path that I am on, that every single psychic and medium that I've spoken to over the last year has told me, this is where you're headed, this is what you're doing. Like, okay, at some point, quit fighting and just fucking do it.

Christy

You just need 126 A sign now?

Marlena

No, but every single psychic medium I've spoken to I ran into, or I met a psychic medium in Thailand. And she said the same fucking thing. So you know, like, I know where I'm going. But at the same time, like my brain, my logical brain has to be told 5 million times that no, this is what you're going to do. So in that aspect, I know that's going to take place, but like you said, just want to continue building this community that we started, you know, and I want to continue meeting new people and learning things and seeing what it is that interests me. Because I'm still, especially in this age right now. And where I'm at in my life, trying to figure out who I am now, what I enjoy what brings me joy, what lights me up, I wanted to do it with all of you.

Jamie

I agree with both of what you have said, but I will add because I need to be a part of a community. You guys know that about me like I am such an extrovert. I want to start conversations, I want to continue to start conversations, whether we're talking about something controversial, that, you know, may not be something that people want to discuss. Maybe it's something a little witchy, maybe it's something a little spiritual. Maybe it is another conversation about women's reproductive rights and abortions, and maybe activism, gay activism, could be something even deeper, if it can get more deep than that. But anyways, you know, what, I'm where I'm going, where I want to start conversations. I think if people talk, if people try to understand different perspectives, that's where we connect, and that's where the community is built. So whether it's activism, spirituality, mysticism, witchiness, I just, that's my goal, and has always been my goal. Along with building my own and working on my own spirituality, I want to start conversations, because that's where community is driven from. And that's how we understand each other. And that's how we connect. And that's how we support our village. Because when we have those walls up, and we're not talking to each other, that's when the hate comes in, and the questions and the you know, the dysfunction. So, my hope when we went into this was starting conversations. And that's still my, my end goal. My goal, I shouldn't say end goal, I need to take that word out, because it's just my goal. To keep those conversations open and fluid. We are all on this journey together on this planet for this one time till the next life. Yes, I do believe in past lives. And this is our journey together. So let's make it the best we possibly can. And

Christy

I mean with that. I think we can mic drop it. So we want to say thank you to all of our listeners. First and foremost. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's been amazing. When you start a podcast, you're like I hope one person listens. And then also want to thank all of our guests. I am going to tell you all of our guests and if I butcher your name, I'm very sorry, my co hosts will help me Yes. Okay, ready? Yes. Okay, here we go. We want to thank our guests Alexis. April Porter, Carolyn Wallace, Claire stone, Daisy, Danielle Kettlewell, Dr. Eliza Collins, Dr. Lisa winters, Emily Harrison, Jaime della Jennifer Showalter. looter shooter, sorry Jennifer Julia Halina hadass Katie, Linda disbarred Lisa Harrington, Mel Morris, Meredith Willits, Morgan Stark, Tony and Ricky Simpson of the salty twins. And Sarah Ellen Hutchinson. Thank you so much for making this past year and season. Amazing. And we look forward to many more episodes, and hopefully many more seasons and we will see you next week.