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Welcome to A Witch, a Mystic and A Feminist, and this episode is me talking about my trip to Sedona.
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That was weird kind of introducing myself.
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But, yeah, welcome back.
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We're glad to be back and I'm very excited to share my trip to Sedona.
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Um, marlena has been to Sedona a couple of times and everyone that has been to Sedona ever has always told me that it's a magical place.
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So, yeah, so, so I went a couple of weeks ago, um, and I was skeptical because of everyone telling me it was magical, right, and I just really didn't know what to expect.
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The skepticism in me was telling and I guess, maybe just a little more like self-doubt, was telling me like it might not be magical for you, you might not experience anything, because, marlena, your experiences were so unique and so clearly magic Right, and so I'm like I don't know.
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Well, quick question.
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So you went to Sedona, but what was the purpose of going to Sedona.
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Did you go with your family, did you?
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So yeah, so I actually kind of a weird thing.
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So I recently connected with a woman from high school.
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We went to high school together and she was a year older than I, was Um, we knew of each other in high school.
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We were, you know, friendly, but we weren't friends, um, and so we had connected through like a writing circle that I was a part of Um and she did a retreat last year in Sedona, um for women, and last year I couldn't go and I was really devastated because I was like, oh, that'd be great and I just I couldn't go.
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There was, even at the last minute, like an opening, and that weekend that the retreat was was actually a memorial service for my Nana.
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So I was like, well, I can't go, like obviously.
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So I told her I'm like I am the first one Like you got to tell me right when you do this retreat again, if you do it.
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And she's like gotcha.
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So, sure enough, she did a retreat again this year and I was on it and signed up really quickly and then kind of not regretted my choice, but I was kind of the oh shit, what did I just do Right, because, because it was with you know, because she is the facilitator, she's the host and the rest of the women, you know, I don't know.
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So there was going to be 10 women and I'm like I I barely know the host, I don't know any of these other women, so I'm on my own and, um, I was starting to like, internally, go like you need to invite your best friend, you need to invite this person, invite this person I invited, I invited Tannen because they needed a yoga teacher at one point.
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I'm like good it would be someone I know Right Like.
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So I was like desperately trying to like find somebody that would come with me, that I knew that would make me comfortable, and the universe was like no it's not happening.
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I'm going to keep you uncomfortable, because this is what you need this is what you need to sit in Christy.
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Yeah so.
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So the universe was like, nah, not happening, you're going to go by yourself.
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And you know, a funny part, like and this is totally me is I'm like, oh, you know, okay, I'm going to rent a car and I'm going to drive.
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You know I'll be able to listen to my music and kind of center myself before I go.
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And then, as the dates were getting closer, our host said to us we had a group chat and she said you know, if anyone's flying in, I encourage you guys to carpool, you know from, if you're flying into Phoenix, sedona is about, you know, almost two hours away.
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And so, without even a thought, like I was just like I have a car, like I'm renting a car, if anyone wants to carpool with me.
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And I'm like what are you doing?
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You wanted to be alone.
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Like you wanted to like listen to your music and road trip alone.
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What?
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And now you're going to invite some strangers into your car for a two hour drive, or whatever it is to Sedona Exactly, yeah.
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So, um, so again.
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So you know, just like conflicting sides of me, um, but it was a great thing that I did.
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Um, having the extra time with the women that I carpooled with was awesome because we got to get to know each other, you know, within those those hours before we even reached the retreat, and so that kind of gave me a little sense of, like, you know, security, like a little safety, right, I kind of know these women.
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Now we've talked.
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It wasn't surface level when we were talking, it was all deep shit and good things and um, and so I was like, okay, I like it, it's good.
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So again, universe, great, great job, thank you.
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Okay, so I have another question.
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So you're getting into Sedona, um, because this was, like I know, for me the beginning of the magic and the awe.
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What side of Sedona did you stay on and what was it like for you, as you were like driving in and seeing everything?
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Oh gosh, and I knew you were going to ask me this.
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I'm like I don't know.
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Do you kind of like?
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drive in like down into Sedona.
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Yeah, Like you kind of, you have cactus and everything around and then all of a sudden it's like red rocks all over the place and it's gorgeous.
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But there's two sides of Sedona and there's the bell rock side and then the other side.
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The non-bell rock side because I had stayed uh, I had stayed on the other side initially and then, when I went with my mom, we stayed on the bell rock side, which I love both.
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Um, and that's not like Sedona is.
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I mean it's big, but it's not like huge.
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I mean you're you're able to go to either side and yeah.
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Yeah.
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In the middle, yeah, in the middle, yeah, um, I don't know I'm here, um, I was like, uh, I know they told me so, oh, I guess Bell Rock.
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So Bell Rock was five minutes away.
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So there we go.
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So we were on Bell Rock side, um, and so, like what we all noticed, cause I was driving, right, but coming from Phoenix, it's a lot of cacti and then a lot of like you know that scenery, and then you literally start driving into the red rocks, right, like you start, and that was pretty awesome because it's like it gets to be from Phoenix, it gets to be just kind of like it reminds me of like five, like there's nothing, there's no one and you're just you know and then all of a sudden, like you, you realize that the landscape is changing, like as you're driving towards it.
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And then you can see, and it's just, it's beautiful, it's gorgeous, and that was really cool driving into.
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And then it's such a little town so, and it has that like cool little town feel and so like.
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So that was, I love it, it's charming, it's quaint, you know, but it's bigger, you know.
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And so I'm like, oh, it's so cute, um, and we stayed in this amazing place that just had the most amazing views and was the perfect place for this retreat.
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So that was really amazing.
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And we did yoga in the mornings every day and right before our hikes, and ate together, um, lunches and dinners.
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So we communed together.
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And the first night we were there, our host had us go around and kind of give a word for why were we there, what was our intention for being there.
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And I had kind of given this a little bit of thought before I went because I thought she might ask us.
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You know, I'm like, um, and so my word was connection and it was connection to all the things.
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So it was connection to myself, my connection to the earth, connection to magic, connection to other women Right, and a big part of me really put myself out there with this retreat because I wanted to see if I could have a connection with other women in a short period of time, like other strange women not strange, but like strangers or strange women, I don't know.
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We love them.
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You can connect with strange women too, yeah, and so that was a big piece of it, because I have not been a part.
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I have never done this before, never put myself out there like this.
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We I know we've all been harmed by women like friendships with women, and so it was really like can this happen?
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I'm in a different place, I'm, parts of me are healed.
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Will it be as amazing as I hope it'll be?
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You know like, will I meet and like become friends with some of these women?
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We're not?
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You know like?
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Will I have commonalities?
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Will I be able to have conversations, and not just surface level like those, all those things, but more so, it was connection, and I know I've shared this connection to magic, like, and not just in the earth, and because, like, I have been questioning my connection to magic.
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So both of you have modalities that are very or gifts, I should say, that are very outwardly presenting.
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Okay, so, like Jamie, you have a connection with spirits.
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Both of you have connections with spirits, right, and your pendulum and all the things, and so it's very outwardly like, outward facing Right.
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And so the past couple of months I'm like, okay, well, maybe I'm too skeptical, maybe I'm closed off, maybe I'm not open.
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Um, I don't know, like where's the magic, like where's my magic?
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What is my magic.
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But it feels kind of silly to say that out loud, like where's my magic, like you're like feeling left out.
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But you know, it was just kind of like, well, maybe you know, maybe I am being too skeptical, maybe I am not allowing things in, and so this was a chance for me to really let go and allow what happened to happen.
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Okay, because I knew I was in a safe space.
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Um, I knew I was protected.
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I knew the women around me were there for the same reasons, right.
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So that was another big piece of it.
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And so I just I was protected.
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I knew the women around me were there for the same reasons, Right.
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So that was another big piece of it.
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And so I, just I was like I'm going to allow myself to be.
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And so, interestingly enough, I was fairly quiet the first day, right.
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Like I mean, I chatted and stuff, but like I was fairly I went and had to take a nap, like after a hike.
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You know that I almost killed me, but that's okay.
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We'll go into that in a few moments.
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And, like normally, I would feel awkward and kind of like, well, you're excluding yourself.
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And there was none of that.
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It was like you are doing what is best for you.
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You're doing what's right for you at this retreat.
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This retreat is for you, it's not for others, Right and um.
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And so I just kind of settled into that and that's kind of where all the magic started.
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So, um, we can get into that.
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Wait before you get into it.
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I love that because I think and I I'm just imagining myself in your situation I would and this has always been something I have always battled but people pleasing and not wanting to make people feel like I'm putting them off or you know, I don't want to talk to you.
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So I I'm so glad that you allowed yourself to be in your space and not allow the outside feelings, thoughts, whatever that might pop in Cause I could see myself doing that and I'm so glad you allowed yourself that acceptance, because it's not being rude, it's being I'm here for me.
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I'm here for me and in my space, and this is what I feel I need to do and how I need to proceed.
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So I'm very proud of you and now I can't wait to hear about that Well, thank you, yeah, and, like I said, all the women were there and kind of had the same mentality, right.
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Like they were there for them.
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And that really helped, because nobody was like, oh my gosh, she's not talking to anyone, like, no, like there was none of that.
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It was just like, yeah, we're doing our own thing, yeah, okay.
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So the first night we were there, we had a woman come in to do a sound bath and a Reiki healing.
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And so oh, and you had never had Reiki before.
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No, so like see.
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And so you had never had reiki, before.
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No, so like see.
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These are all new experiences for me okay, yeah, so, um, so she brought everything in and we were all laying on the grass in the and she makes tarot decks.
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So she actually has a shop in town and she makes tarot decks, and so this tarot deck was an animal tarot deck that she had illustrated.
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And so she went around and she had each one of us draw a card and not look at it yet.
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And then we looked at them and she went around and told us what they meant.
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Okay, so everyone's drawing these cards, right, and I don't remember what everyone had, but like a snow leopard and like whale and like all these like cool things, right?
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And I'm like.
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I turned my card over and it's a toad, okay, and I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'm like, well, fine, I'm like again, you get what you get.
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It's like this is the card and literally I felt chosen to pull that card.
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So I was like it's fine, but I laughed a little internally because I'm like can I never pull a card that like like I want, like I don't, I want zebra, I don't know, I want something like more majestic.
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I want zebra, I don't know.
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I want something like more majestic.
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You need an elephant, but actually a toad is.
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You know, it's got some great symbolism, so please continue.
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Yes, so what she told me is a toad represents a connection.
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So that was her first word.
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Okay, so, and I had just said that a few hours earlier.
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And she said it represents a connection to the earth, it represents a connection to magic and it represents a connection to the world.
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Okay, so it's all about connection, and so I'm looking around going, okay right Toad.
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that card just told you you were in the right place at the right time.
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You can't make this up.
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Welcome to your journey LG.
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you are in the right place at the right time.
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You can't make this up.
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Welcome to your journey.
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Welcome, welcome.
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Yep, welcome.
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So I'm like okay, cool, awesome, well, the synchronicity of that, I can't ignore that.
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So we get into the sound healing and the Reiki and again, with any sort of meditation and any sort of practice like that, I have a hard time letting myself completely go, especially in a different environment.
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So I had to really kind of get into like a deep space and be like again, you're safe, everybody else doing the same thing, no one's thinking you're weird, there's no judgment, we're all here to do this.
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And so I actually felt like it was an amazing, amazing experience.
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And I could feel the energy moving through my body and I got like your salvatory plans, right, I was like producing a ton of saliva, like, and it kind of like hurt.
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So I was like did the energy get stuck?
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You know like what is going on?
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I was like what is wrong?
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And I'm like, well, maybe nothing's wrong, maybe that's just how things are moving in my body.
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I could feel things twitching, I could feel things moving and I'm like, wow, and I really got into like this deep meditative state.
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And as I get into this meditative state, I hear a toad not joking, I hear a toad and I'm thinking and I'm trying to stay, not, I'm trying not to be in my brain, my logical brain.
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But my logical brain is like it's probably in the music, like.
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But my logical brain is like it's probably in the music, like you're probably hearing just like a little toe, that's in the music and I'm like, whatever I hear it, whatever it's fine Moving on.
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So, towards the end of this Reiki sound bath, I start having these visions and all I can explain to you is that it was like there was a glitch in the timeline because it was me, but I couldn't see if I was old or young.
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It was glitchy, but it was me somewhere else.
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Okay, and everything in me was like this is something that either it's a glitch in the timeline or it's a I don't know.
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Like it's something, a past life, like something Right and right.
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As I was getting into that, she brought us out and I was like so yeah, so anyway.
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So then we all sit up you know we're kind of waking up and we sit up and she says who drew the toad card?
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And I raised my hand and she goes there was a toad right next to me, did you hear it?
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I said I actually did hear it.
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And she goes yeah, it was right up here next to me.
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She's like it was the weirdest thing.
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Well, and when you were talking about your glands and the pain there, I was like but you drew the toad card, like you know and you know how they it extends their throat or whatever.
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I was like so okay, I just the toad was letting you know he's whatever.
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I was like yeah, so okay, I just the toad was letting you know he's present, I know.
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And then he made a noise.
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He made a noise, yeah, um.
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So that was all amazing, right, and I had to write about it.
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I had to go to bed.
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I did all the things, um, and went to bed, passed out, um, and the next day we did a pretty strenuous hike up.
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Cathedral rock did a pretty strenuous hike up cathedral rock Um.
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Marlene is already laughing Okay.
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She's like.
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I know it's not an easy hike.
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No, not from the beginning.
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Yeah, no, and I'm glad I didn't do any research on it because I might've chickened out.
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But it's not like a hike that I do on the weekends, okay, like it's like rock climbing and then, and then it's night and then there's like a trail and then you kind of got to go like straight up through like two rock crevices and then my brain the whole time was like thinking how are you going to get down?
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How are you going to get down?
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Yeah, you're going to get up there.
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How are you going to get down?
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So luckily, there was, like you know, some of us women were like everyone stuck together in different groups, but there was a couple of us that had, like were behind where the stragglers, I guess, and every time we stopped in the shade we'd be like should we just stay here?
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And then one of us would be like, well, let's go to the next place, you know, next shade spot.
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Okay, we'd get there.
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And then we both would be like, um, maybe we're done, are we done?
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And then, and then she's like I see the end of trail sign and I'm like, damn you, Now we have to finish.
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Yeah, so we get to the top and it was amazing, right, it was worth it.
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But my legs were shaking, like cause it was hot, right, but, but we set out early, knowing it was gonna be hot, and like my legs were shaking, I'm thinking to myself, god, I don't know how I'm supposed to get down, like I don't trust my legs at this point.
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Um, so we sat, we sat up there to pictures, we, you know, had snacks.
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We just really enjoyed it.
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Um, I didn't go as far as, like there's like a wind tunnel that you can experience, Like if you hike kind of behind one of the rocks, and I didn't go as far as that.
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Maybe next time, when I'm more prepared.
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Um, and then we went down the rock and pretty much slid.
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I slid on my butt or I did a crab walk the entire way down.
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I did not trust my legs enough to take me down safely.
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And then also, like sometimes I feel, cause I'm tall, so I don't feel close enough to the ground to feel secure.
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So, like, cause I'm tall so I don't feel close enough to the ground to feel secure.
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So like, so I'm sliding down right, I'm going down to people you know we're all going down and then we get back to, uh, the house and I go to take a shower and I take off my shorts and they are split down the back.
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So then I'm like who has seen my butt?
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Like?
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I was like did anyone notice, right?
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So I, after I take a, has seen my butt Like I was like, did anyone notice, right?
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So I, after I take a shower, I go downstairs and I'm like, so I don't know.
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Like, if you guys didn't tell me, like that my short, my shorts were split and then they're like no, we would have told you we didn't say it.
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I'm like okay, good, fine, so you know, so I threw those away, but I mean, but you enjoyed the experience.
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It was beautiful.
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It was a beautiful experience.
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And our host was smart she scheduled that hike the first day, knowing that it was hard, and then an easy hike the second day.
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So, oh good, kudos to her for that planning.
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And so that night, so actually the afternoon, we had free time and I really wanted to go out and explore Sedona, but I was exhausted and so I was like you know what I'm going to?
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Just I'm going to honor myself and I'm going to take a nap.
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Why I took a long ass nap and so which I kind of woke up and I regretted a little bit, but I was like you know what?
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There's a reason for it.
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There's a reason for this.
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It's okay, right.
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And so that night we went on a stargazing tour and our guides took us to this clearing and I don't have the name of it, I don't even know if they gave it to us, but they took us to this clearing where there was a vortex, where there was energy blowing, and you know, um spent some time with us kind of letting us feel the energies.
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What I felt in the energy was kind of a tingling in my fingers, almost like like a warm tingling, almost like you've touched a electrical outlet kind of right, and then like it zapped you a little bit and then the tingling spread into my hands and it was warm.
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There was just warmth up my hands and in my arms.
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The other thing that I felt is my feet were hot, like I'm not talking like you're standing too long and they kind of get warm and like you need to move them.
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I'm talking like you're standing too long and they kind of get warm and like you need to move them.
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I'm talking like you're standing barefoot on asphalt, hot, and I was wearing hiking boots and it was, you know, dust, wow.
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So I'm like, okay, well, this is cool, you know.
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So, um, we were at this clearing where there was said to be lady spirits protecting something, um.
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And so, you know, they encouraged us to.
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Well, we were going to do a drum circle and they just incurred.
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They said you're safe here, like you know.
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Just, these women are not going to hurt you, but they are protecting something.
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We don't know what they're protecting, but there's something up here that they won't leave, okay, and so he's like so you may feel their, their presence while we're doing this drum circle.
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And so he encouraged the, both the um tour guides encouraged us to kind of face whatever way we wanted, but we were going to stay kind of in a circle, esque.
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And so, you know, everyone's facing different directions and I decided to face North, the rocks, and for some reason I just felt called to face that way.
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And so the drum circle begins and I'm trying to get into a meditative state and stay there and my left arm starts to want to raise.
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Okay, not like, not me raising it, but just raise.
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And I'm like oh, that's weird, girl, I don't know if you want to happen and uh, and so stay focused.