Unlocking the Soul's Narrative Through Tarot with Kate Van Horn

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Welcome to A Witch, a Mystic and a Feminist.

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Today, christy and I are joined by special guest Kate Van Horn.

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Kate is a psychic intuitive tarot reader mentor and has recently added published author to her resume with the release of her new book Inner Tarot.

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Kate also teaches tarot through mentorship, as well as on TikTok, in which I've been following her since, I believe, about 2020.

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Kate, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm super excited to be here.

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We are super excited to have you.

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I have your book, Inner Tarot.

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One of the things is, I remember when we were working together and I want to say it was about two years ago and that was when you first announced that you were writing your book.

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And so here it is, how exciting.

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So I'm really excited to be able to-.

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You were in it for the long run and I appreciate it.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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I was just going to ask did it take you a full two years of writing the book?

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How long did it take?

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No, so what's interesting about it is like the publishing process takes.

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It's a bunch of little sprints, is what I call it, so it's a marathon of mini sprints.

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So I wrote the book in four and a half months, If you ask my, which is not normal, it's it's.

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I actually had a pretty expedited process because they told me my pub date and I was like that it's going to take that long.

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So I submitted my book like almost a year ago, and then the whole process of printing and preparing it and designing takes that long.

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So, um, yeah, no, I didn't really write it for the full time, thankfully, but also I really wrote it quickly, which was a huge stress as well.

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But it is what it is.

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You know there's pros and cons to each side.

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Well, okay.

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So I kind of want to dive into the book a little bit, because the inner tarot is not just a book that teaches about tarot.

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You actually share your experiences of healing with your sexual trauma, being assaulted, your PTSD, eating disorders, and I know you've always been very candid when speaking to clients and even on social media about your experiences.

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But how was it for you to actually put it down on paper and be so vulnerable to like put it out for everyone?

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It was both.

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It was super healing, it's incredibly vulnerable, but it was also really nice because I could choose my words and I could be really delicate and specific and I was able to make it not feel more beautiful, but I was able to embellish more in a way that made me more proud to share it compared to the conversations I've had with clients and so on, and that rawness and that in the moment, sharing is super powerful as well.

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But I think, to have a chance to say it exactly how I wanted to say it was really helpful and it did feel like closure in many ways.

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That said, when I think about the fact that my story, especially as it relates to the childhood sexual abuse, is literally on shelves and in the world, it's terrifying, it's very strange, it's very weird.

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It's hard to really put into words the scope of the fact that anyone, any stranger, can now read that about me.

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But I've also received so many great messages from women and others who relate sadly and are like thank you for saying that, because I mean, I didn't speak up about my trauma until I was like 17 years old.

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So for all that time as a child I was like holding and harboring something in my throat and not speaking my truth and I hope it just offers permission really Well.

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I love that you added that to this book because, again, like I said, it's not just a book that teaches tarot.

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And, by the way, I love always how you explain the cards and your interpretation of the cards.

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It's just beautiful and I think everybody should follow you and read this book and work with you.

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Yes, you know the fact that your stories are in here too, you know.

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I just I find that it's just very beautiful and very soft.

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You know it's not, and that's also the way that you teach the cards and the interpretations that you have in here, but also on TikTok not, and that's also the way that you teach the cards and the interpretations that you have in here, but also on TikTok.

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And that's how I first met well, was introduced to you basically was I found you on TikTok and tarot for me was very similar to your story and that I used it as a healing guide first.

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When did you really start with tarot and your healing journey?

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So I started, like I found my first deck of cards I guess it was like 10 years ago now, a little over and I just was like obsessed with them very like.

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Early on I just thought they were really interesting, I thought they were, I was intrigued and it was definitely a personal practice at first.

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It wasn't anything I expected to create a career around, and I'm so grateful I did.

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But I think I would still love and appreciate tarot, like even if it had remained a personal practice forever.

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It would have still been a part of my life.

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So for me, I found them as a great extension of my creativity too.

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I feel like I was, I've always identified as creative, but I never was like an artist.

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You know, I didn't see myself as that.

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So the tarot was this like piece of art in front of me that let me express myself or explore my intuition and my, my connection, in new ways, and that was a really fun and playful experience.

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It was honestly like exactly what my inner child was looking for was a tool to kind of just like.

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Let's see how this goes.

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And I think too, for me the tarot having both shadow and light was really important At the time when I found tarot and like beginning of my if we dare to call it spiritual awakening, I was very jaded.

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I was really angry and I was not really going to deal with the love and light stuff.

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Like it just felt contrived to me and I would roll my eyes at it.

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I'm a Jersey girl at heart.

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I just was like I don't know, this isn't my cup of tea.

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But Tarot had enough of the realistic and the harder cards that I was like, oh okay, like I can get behind this because we're representing all of it.

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Right.

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And I really enjoyed that Like the nine of swords, yeah.

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I'm like yes, that is how I feel Correct, so it was validating.

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In that way I was able to trust myself more because I didn't feel like I was closing off any parts of myself with the tarot deck.

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That's awesome.

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And then in here you also have some of your channel writing with each description of the card, and I know I got to work with you and we did a lot of channel writing, which I still do.

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I still use a lot of the practices that you taught me.

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But adding the channel writing to that, I mean really a lot of what we worked on together is a lot of what we worked on together, is a lot of what's in here, which is super beautiful, but the channel writing for each one of these cards.

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Can you go into that a little bit and explain to our audience?

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Yeah.

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So what I did was I paired a piece of personal poetry with each of the 78 cards because I really wanted.

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So the thing about tarot that I've always loved but also kind of resisted was how much history there really is.

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It dates back to the 15th century.

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So you look at some of these cards, especially the traditional decks, and it looks nothing like our lives right now.

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That is not how we show up in our worlds.

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I am not wearing a suit of armor and I'm not on a throne.

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Yet I wanted the readers of the inner tarot to recognize that there's these moments and these pockets and these memories in our life that really embody the cards and the archetypes, and we can look back and say that was a three of cups moment.

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So what I did was I went through all of my journals, both of personal poetry as well as channeled writing for clients, and when I found something that just kind of resonated as potential card study, I pulled it out and I reworked it a little bit to kind of teach the card as well.

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So at the beginning of each of the descriptions is that little blurb of storytelling which hopefully encourages people to do that on their own too.

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Yeah, it's lovely, you know, and my child, who actually gave me my first tarot deck, I actually, you know, was not into it.

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I very analytical and didn't know anything about tarot, except, you know, it was evil and whatever everybody else said, you know right.

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And my kid had a few tarot decks in their room and gave me one of the decks, and so you know just-.

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That's so kind.

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I love that yes.

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And so they have not really worked with tarot much over the last few years.

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And so just recently came to me and said Mom, I'm going to take one of the tarot decks, can you give me a book to help me, because you know we want to do some readings over at my friend's, said Mom, I'm going to take one of the tarot decks, can you give me a book to help me, because we want to do some readings over at my friend's house, blah, blah, blah.

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And I was like, yeah, absolutely Take this book.

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And they were like, oh well, I just want one that is going to straight up, tell me the cards.

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And then they opened up the book and said I'm just kidding, I want this book.

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Yeah, you want the real deal.

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I love that.

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I really appreciate that you shared and I love that they were called back to the tarot, you know, because it comes and goes in seasons.

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I'll admit even, and mind you, part of it is because I just launched the book, so it's like all I've been talking about, it's like the last thing I want to think about is tarot.

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But currently, right now, I'm in a season of like kind of exploring my writing again and just seeing other ways to connect with my intuition.

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So I love that they knew when it was time to revisit it and that you had a resource.

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I really appreciate you sharing it.

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I mean, I have a number of tarot books, but this definitely is my favorite.

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And, christy, I know that we've discussed this previously that tarot is just not something that you've learned.

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It's been difficult to learn, kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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And I wanted to say so.

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Starting reading your book, I was like, oh, I don't know if I can get into this Right Cause, like I, I like I've had so many other tarot books that I'm like, okay, well, this tells me what the card is.

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And I'm like, okay, well, maybe I just need someone to show me, like, maybe you know.

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And so I just kind of was like, oh, I don't know.

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And then you know, the way that you, I have to say it is the most helpful tarot book, because the way that you describe things and how you pair it, like the stories and the blurbs, and I love how you yeah, they're very historical and, like you just mentioned, we're not wearing crowns, we're not wearing hats, we don't have all these swords in our lives.

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I mean, just anything about the cards is very historic, and so I loved that background.

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And then I did just love how you paired everything and how you broke everything down.

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It was just so it was easy to follow and easy to really like take in and comprehend in a way that wasn't abstract.

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It was just you know.

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So that was very helpful to me and I and I did get into it.

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So that was very.

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That was a pleasant surprise, Cause I was like I just don't know.

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It's a system and you know like we don't always want to learn a new system.

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That's how I feel honestly about like astrology, human design.

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I so respect it.

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I'm like this is so incredible.

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But I go to a reader and I say, just tell me what I need to know, cause, like, when I try to read about it, I can't like get there.

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And I think it's because Tara worked for me and I was able to to really find a way that to teach it as well.

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And it's funny because part one I'm really proud of part one, even though part two, I feel like, has my heart and soul and my story in the book.

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Part one is what I believe is like a truly accessible way to learn the cards, and so thank you, christy, for validating that, because people have asked me on different podcasts and things over the months that leading up to pub date, how did you figure out how to convey this message of the cards and the structure of them so easily?

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And I said a lot of trial and error.

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Like Marlena knows, I taught my courses like 30, 40 times.

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So every time I would go back and I would re-listen to it and I'd be like that's kind of confusing, kate, the way you said that and I would try to rework the way I would teach it and it was just repetition and like finding a better way to explain a very complex system.

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Yeah, and that comes across, for sure Thanks.

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Do you think that, because you also teach tarot on TikTok, you have your short videos that will go over each card or each suit or the court cards?

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Do you think that, in addition to your mentorships, that teaching on TikTok really helped you with the writing of this book and your interpretations, or teaching the interpretations of the cards?

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Yeah, I mean I struggle because I think in some ways I think TikTok limits tarot a lot.

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I think it's a very limited lens, I think it's getting better, but I think what works well on the algorithms is not necessarily the truest expression of my tarot practice.

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So that's been something I've had to like navigate a little bit.

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But yeah, again, like repetition, seeing what resonates with people, seeing how people respond to certain things, certain archetypes, certain cards I think I'm always able to tell what card I need more work on, like myself, by the questions I receive.

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I'm like, okay, I guess I'm missing something there.

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Interesting, and it's just, it's such a humbling reminder that you don't master the cards you can't and you shouldn't try to Like when someone else teaches something or I find a video, I'm like that's really cool.

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Never saw it that way.

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So it's, it's all about perspective and I think what's limiting sometimes about content online compared to a book is that it really, you know, limits the, the ability to see this archetype as something so complex and diverse, and it just makes it very one-dimensional.

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So as long as you combine both, as long as you're doing some TikTok scrolling and a little bit of reading and your own practice, I think you're going to have the best experience.

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Well, I also love how you say in your book that sometimes you're just not going to get it right.

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And that's okay, because we all know I'm a perfectionist and I always have to get things right.

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And with tarot that has always been that imposter syndrome for me in I'm not going to be able to get this right.

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And so actually just recently I'm going to a work retreat next weekend or next week and my director asked me to bring my tarot cards so that I could read for my peers.

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That's so intimidating I am freaked out.

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I'm like, okay, I'm going to bring the book and you know also, just say what I'm seeing.

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Go with my intuition and you know, sometimes what doesn't make sense to me makes sense to them, which is validating, and you know that's something that I know also that it can like come later, right, meaning like it could receive the message in that moment with you, and they're like huh.

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And then two days, two weeks later, it's like oh, there it is.

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Yeah, that's what makes sense, you know, and just trusting that they'll find that too.

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Yeah, oh, there it is.

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That's what makes them, you know, and just trusting that they'll find that too.

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But that's so fun and I'm really excited for you.

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The blending of, like work life and your spiritual, you know stuff, your woo-woo worlds colliding.

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I love it.

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Yeah, it's actually very nerve wracking for me because, like I don't post my last name in association with this podcast because of my corporate job, you know I have clients that they'll think whatever they think, but you know my corporate job pays my bills.

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So we got to respect that.

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But the one thing that I do try and be at work is authentic, and so you know there are people that know about my spiritual woo-woo part of my world.

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But yeah, so to really actually bring the two together, I'm excited and nervous.

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Yeah, You'll have to message me after.

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I definitely will Email me, text me, whatever.

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Let me know, but one of the things you always said was don't be afraid to have your guides with you, and what I mean by guides like physical books and whatnot, and it's okay to still flip through the book and that sometimes, even later into your practice, you would still flip through the book and be like did I read this correctly?

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Do I understand this card correctly?

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Yeah, I used my book for different guidebooks for at least a year or two into reading, even just having it, even if I didn't open it, and still be close by in case, because the thing is like nothing's by accident with tarot.

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So the cards you choose are meaningful and you're the one that chose them.

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So whether you read from the book or you read intuitively off of memory and it doesn't matter Like you pulled the cards the energy's there.

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So, it really is an impactful reading, no matter what, so, in writing the book, what was your favorite section that you wrote?

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Oh, that's so fun.

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You know what I actually really enjoyed writing the sword suit, I think because I know how much people fear it.

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So it was fun to like go there and be honest and like really transparent about like what these cards really mean but also offer a different lens and a different viewpoint on them, and I felt like the channeled writing was like really intense and I felt like the card meanings themselves were just fun to write because of how much we like associate them with certain feelings and certain anxieties and certain fears.

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So tackling that was interesting.

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My least favorite, you know, was the cups, for kind of the same reason I feel like we are so obsessed with this like flowery, loving language with the cups and I I was like, oh my God, I was sick of like saying the same words healing, healing over and over again.

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So yeah, it was fun to be challenged.

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I liked the chapters that challenged me and that one in particular was I also I love the pentacle suit.

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The earth element to me is just something I really resonate with.

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So I enjoyed it.

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But it was funny.

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I got feedback from, like my fiance read this book no joke probably 10 times through.

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Yeah, god bless him.

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And um, then I had like a I would I would consider a writing partner.

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She was a friend of mine who's an editor and I would send her things like because my timeline was very short.

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Um, most, most people get 12 months to write a book, ish eight to 12.

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And I took four Um by my own doing.

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I asked, and again, if you ask my fiance, he goes.

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She wrote it in two months because I procrastinated.

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Um.

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So anyway, long story short, I was sending this to people.

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I was like, come on, help me edit in real time.

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So I would write in the morning and then I would edit at night.

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And people were often saying, like the Pentacles is kind of boring, it's compared to the other ones, like I don't know.

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And I finally had to, like, stand up for myself and say it's supposed to Right.

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The pentacle suit is actually very just like nurturing, even keeled, simple.

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So even that, like those moments where I was like should I change it Right?

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And then I said, no, it's exactly what it's supposed to be.

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No, and exactly, it's the earth element, it's a physical here and now, yeah, yeah.

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But I also love how you describe the major arcana and the minor arcana, in that the major arcana is more universal and whereas the minor is the day to day.

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You know, or how you deal with the major arcana.

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Yeah, it's how we kind of work with it, how we sit with it, what to do with it.

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Yeah, and the major cards were also kind of a challenge in a way, because some of them I'm still learning myself.

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I mean, there's such rich symbolism and there's so many things, and even that I feel like you could write a book the same size as the full book of the inner tarot just on the major arcana.

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So like I was pulling back a lot with that chapter in particular to have it match the others, so it was a little bit of a dance all around, yeah.

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Do you find with your life experience and as you continue to grow and in your life, that sometimes the card meanings to you change a little bit?

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They do.

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Yeah, I think that, like it started, you know, certain ones were just very like by the book for me and that's what worked and then I'll have you know when I see it.

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The most actually is in client sessions and client readings, because I'm kind of pulled out of my own experience and I get this perspective of how they are showing up with these cards and how it's playing out in real time and I feel like that has made me the best reader is like, or the best reader like I can be.

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Um, not the best reader overall, um, just just to clarify um, the best reader I can personally be is through the lens of like their stories.

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So, yes, I noticed like a deepening and a and a evolvement of the cards, but it's usually not from my personal polls, it's more from my client polls.

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Okay, and then when it comes to your personal polls, because you discussed this in your book as well it's difficult to read, you know, for anybody to read for themselves, because we have our own biases of you know what we want, and I know I'm the type of person that has, in the past and maybe present, all pull cards and I'm like this is not what I want to hear, and so I reshuffle.

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Or.

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I get the cards and I'm like I don't know what this is saying, but I can get the same exact cards for somebody else, that I'm reading and I know exactly what it's trying to say, what they're trying to say.

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Yeah, it's just, it's because it's really hard for us to take our own advice and like, and that's it Like, and I think I think being patient with yourself too, like for me, when I noticed myself kind of pulling more cards or trying to escape a message, I just take a break and then I come back and I say, okay, one card only.

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What I get is what I get, and even if it means I need to sit with it for a few days and it won't make sense right away, I let it be, I let it lie.

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But yeah, I think, getting readings from even friends, like sometimes I'll just have a close girlfriend of mine who I know pulls cards I act like there's one.

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There's a lot of friends in my life who pull cards.

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I just text someone and I'm like, hey, could you throw me a card real fast, and it's actually really nice because I get to get that mirror from someone else and even if I interpret it for myself, it immediately checks me because I didn't physically pull it.

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So, yeah, I think, just finding ways to work with it and deal with the fact that you're going to not really know, you're going to be most blind to your own story and your own perspective.

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God, I love this book so much.

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I really do.

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I love it.

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I love how vulnerable you were.

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I love your messages in here and, like I said, I've worked with you in the past and you know it's just to see this come to fruition is just absolutely beautiful.

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I'm so proud of you and so happy for you.

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Thank you.

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That makes me so happy and I want to echo back and mirror back how like excited I am for you guys.

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I've watched the podcast on TikTok.

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I've seen it and I'm like super proud of you because you probably launched this.

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The three of you put it together when, like a couple of years ago, yeah, so September 2021 was when we launched our first episode, which was it's bold, it's brave.

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Put yourself out there.

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It's scary, it was very scary, it's a lot, it was a lot and it's amazing.

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Thank you.

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But you know I of course still follow you on TikTok and you know I send my messages to you all the time and stuff like that.

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But you know you're also talking about feng shui.

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You've been working with that and then most recently you were posting numerology of your home, the home address, and so if you can go into that a little bit too, first feng shui what got you interested in feng shui?

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Into it.

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Yeah, so I have always, as an empath and I'm sure you two can relate I've always been sensitive to spaces.

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So when I walk into a space I can kind of read the energy of it and like what's going on there or what's.

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And I've also always been really inspired by homes that feel like an extension of someone's personality.

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So when I walk in and I'm like I can feel you, I can feel your essence, like it's fun, even if it's not my style necessarily of decor, it's just really interesting to see how people express themselves that way.

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It's just like our fashion choices and anything else.

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So I started to want to study feng shui and I took a course.

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I got certified in feng shui by my teacher, tisha Morris.

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She has fantastic books that really she's also an energy healer, so she does do a beautiful job of like complimenting feng shui with energy reading and healing.

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And now I'm kind of marketing it more as like sacred space and psychic reading of the home.

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Because I have to say feng shui by the books, by the textbook, is a little limiting in our modern day lives, especially those of us that live in apartments or condos or, like you know, it's studio apartments.

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It's just it's not the easiest thing to apply when you're taking it very specifically and literally, but it's really inspired me now to read clients' homes, so I'll ask for, like the message and the lesson, or I really believe that, like how someone's showing up in their home, how they're treating their home, where we have our clutter, it speaks volumes about how we're treating ourselves and how we're kind of caring for our own energy.

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So I've been saying it's like an extension of our aura.

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So it's been a fun thing to like, dabble in and try to play with.

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And, as far as the numerology goes, your actual street address can give you insight on, like, what the power of that home is.

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And every number, whether it's, you know, a one home or an eight home, has some gifts and shadows, so to speak.

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So it's just fun to see what the theme is going to be and it's pretty accurate too.

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I've gone back.

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I've also lived in a shitload of homes.

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I've moved a lot Single mom energy, we're just popping around, we were doing our thing and then I've noticed in myself moving has always been a way for me to initiate change, even in my adult years.

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I've lived in so many different apartments in LA and things like that and I'm realizing I think it's because there's this part of me that feels like that means I'm progressing part of me that feels like that means I'm progressing, so that's been fun to look at.

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But I've looked back at all the homes I've lived in and I'm like, yep, that checks, yep, that checks.

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As far as theme, I'm living in like a six home right now.

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It's a.

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It's a creative home, so it's a great home to to do creative projects and I wrote my book so it works.

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I'm in a six.

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I am in a six.

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When are you going to write your book?

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Well, we're getting there, not four and a half months or two.

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I'm currently in a nine house.

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I came from a seven house, or a seven home, and that seven home was the beginning of my spiritual awakening, or my midlife awakening, my midlife crisis, like you know that whole.

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But that's where my spiritual awakenings started.

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And then I came to a nine home, which I haven't seen the video for the nine yet.

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So I'm like, I'm like.

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So tell me, Kate, what is the nine?

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I'll send you a couple.

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I have a couple other ones too that I did in the past.

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But yeah, the nine home is like a really beautiful time of closure and completion.

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It's also a wonderful home to just like heal within your family and really give to your family and be really invested in, like your community overall, the souls that are going to kind of feel your energy and essence and presence.

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So it's very much a giving back type of energy.

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Well, that checks because we, my family has healed from my child sexual assault from you know and then we created this podcast, and so now I'm going back to my seven home.

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So when I left that home, there was a lot of turmoil that was going on which triggered my awakening, basically.

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And so, going back, I'm not scared, I'm actually, and after hearing your explanation of a seven home and it being, yeah, there's dense energy, but this is a spiritual home, I'm actually really excited now to be able to go back because I have more of an idea of you know one what to expect, that I know it's not going to be easy, but sometimes those tower moments are necessary to shake up the foundation.

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So I'm excited.

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Yeah, it's good.

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It's good to know what you're heading back into and it's good to feel like we always have free will and we can work with.

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Like you said, work with the energy, anticipate, prepare, get our tools ready for that and hold ourselves more accountable.

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You know, when we know what's on the way which I think too like has a lot to do with why we like readings you know, terror readings, psychic readings, astrology it's because we just want to plan, we want to set ourselves up for success, and it's not just because we want to control everything.

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It's also because we want to take advantage of each chapter and really receive from it as much as we can.

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I love that.

00:29:45.597 --> 00:29:48.387
So, kate, what is next for you?

00:29:48.387 --> 00:29:49.904
Oh gosh, I don't know.

00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:52.193
Well, I'm getting married next month.

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I'm like, yeah, maybe worry about my personal life.

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The cat recording me is like, ah, should I have something like work like that?

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You know, that's kind of a big focus right now, for sure.

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But beyond that, I am excited to see.

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I'm really um, honestly inspired by all the events and like retreats that I've done recently.

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I'm missing in-person connection.

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So I'm definitely kind of planning the next calendar year of some like experiences where we can gather and and really connect closely.

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I am kind of working through some mentorship right now.

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So for anyone listening who's interested in intuitive mentorship, psychic connection or intuitive business coaching, those are areas that I work with people.

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But bigger projects I mean I would love a tarot deck someday, for sure.

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So we'll see when that happens.

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I will buy that too, I promise.

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I so love it.

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But, yeah, I'm waiting for divine timing for that.

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I know it's coming, I just don't know when or how.

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But I also felt that way about the book and I feel like the book is exactly what I wanted it to be, so knowing that it's going to arrive when it's meant to.

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Yeah, beautiful.

00:31:04.061 --> 00:31:06.807
And lastly, plug yourself.

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Give us all of your websites.

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I mean, I have them and we'll put them in the show notes, but please let everybody know how to get in contact with you and follow you, and all the good stuff.

00:31:21.249 --> 00:31:25.663
Yeah, you can find my work at katevanhorncom or katevanhorn, on Instagram and TikTok.

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I also have theinnertarotcom where you can get more information about the book, specifically, if you're interested in reading it, ordering it wherever books are sold, and I also have some free tarot practices on there too, so like guided practices that you can use with your cards and the book.

00:31:41.983 --> 00:31:46.051
But just here to answer any questions for anyone in your community.

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Well, thank you.

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Thank you so much for joining us.

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Yes, Thank you both.

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Yeah, and thank you all for listening to this episode of A Witch, A Mystic and A Feminist.

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Go buy Kate's book the Inner Tarot and go look up our episodes at wmfpodcom, and we will see you next week.

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You.